Starring: Warren Oates, Millie Perkins, Jack Nicholson, Will Hutchins, Charles Eastman, Guy El Tsosie, Brandon Carroll, B.J. Merholz, Wally K. Berns, William Mackleprang, James Campbell
Tagline: Suspenseful desert pursuit in the "High Noon" tradition.
Plot: A mysterious woman persuades two cowboys to help her in a revenge scheme.
My rating: 8/10
Will I watch it again? Yes.
That tagline is horseshit to bring up HIGH NOON (1952) like that. The only thing they have in common is they're both Westerns and they both have suspense but the tension is quite different. And that trailer wasn't released until at least 1970, four years after this flick. Anyway, I REALLY dig this movie. I had a hunch about the ending early on because they kept avoiding the identity of their prey but that didn't take away from it's power much. The film is masterfully directed by Hellman. The cast essentially consists of four characters. Coley (Hutchins), Woman (Perkins), Billy (Nicholson) and Willett (Oates). Hutchins annoyed me at first but by the second half his goofiness had settled down and grasped the reality of the situation. From then on he was great. Perkins? I'm not sure if I didn't like her character or acting. She was a pissy little brat, the kind of character I don't like anyway. I have my own ideas of what happened to her after the credits rolled. That brings us to Warren Oates who, along with screenwriter Eastman and director Hellman (who I see died in April of last year at age 91), helped make this movie the great film it is. He fucking kills it. My only regret is the film is as short as it is. I would be on board for another half hour of drama that goes beyond the end of the picture. I'm sure it wouldn't take much to visualize that. Don't misunderstand, I loved the ending it's just that I would like to see certain people get what's coming to them and all slow and painful like. Get me? A lot of this crew filmed this back to back with RIDE THE WHIRLWIND (1966). I saw that one a long time ago and I remember liking it OK but after seeing THE SHOOTING, I think I should wait a minute as RIDE is probably the lesser of the two. Plus Oates wasn't in it.
Starring: Margot Kidder, Geoffrey Lewis, Christopher Walken, Bo Brundin, A Martinez, Ivan Naranjo, Bert Santos, Sacheen Littlefeather, Jorge Cervera Jr., Michael Eiland, Ben Zeller
Tagline: The American West...a burning desert awash with bushwackers, scalphunters and adventurers in search of forgotten gold...
Plot: In this adventurous western set in 1836, four misanthropic people band
together to find a golden treasure. But as they go out, they begin
double and triple-crossing each other in hopes of getting the gold for
themselves.
My rating: 6.5/10
Will I watch it again? No.
I'm gonna want more cow.
After watching the movie I read a few reviews and nearly all of them shit all over it. It's not THAT bad. Geez! The picture looks fantastic! And with cinematographer Michael Chapman behind the camera, it's no doubt. A couple of years earlier he shot TAXI DRIVER (1976) and a couple of years later he shot RAGING BULL (1980). The guy's no slouch. There are some truly beautiful shots in this picture. It looks so good at times that you get the idea this film is somewhere in between an arthouse and a Spaghetti Western. I don't know what you'd call that but I kind of dug it.
I like the cast with the exception of Walken. I'm a fan of his but he's just miscast. I see that he's in the movie but I don't feel it. He's really out of place in a gritty western where the great Geoffrey Lewis shares the screen. Now Lewis knows what movie he's in and he's one of the best things about it. Kidder did a fine job. One odd thing about this movie is that it's halfway in that you start to get an idea of what the Captain is up to which ends up being the main thrust of the story. How did he know where to look for the treasure, having traveled from England? Beats me. The large gold nugget he has seems to have something to do with it. Why is it he as a nugget with the same composition as the one Scalphunter (Lewis) has? No idea. Maybe I missed something but there are a few little things that would make more sense, on a grander scale, if we could connect the dots more easily. By leaving big pieces of the puzzle out, I reckon it makes it more 'artsy'. I'm not looking for deep thought in this one. With one foot in the arthouse and one in the Spaghetti Western where they'll stab you in the back just for snorin', I'll take the latter.
When it's all said and done, though, The 100 pretty to look at minutes moved pretty quickly. It's a shame this was Leeds' sole venture into film making. I would love to see what else he was capable of. This is one hell of a start, albeit an uneven one. Side note: even with no money left over for the poster budget, surely someone could've done better than what they went with. Just terrible.
Starring: Paul Gross, Sienna Guillory, Dustin Milligan, Tyler Mane, Callum Keith Rennie, Graham Greene, Jay Brazeau, Michael Eklund, Alex Zahara, Jody Racicot, Shawn Campbell, Paul Coeur, Melody B. Choi, Tseng Chang
Plot: A hardened American gunslinger is repeatedly thwarted in his attempts to
mount a showdown in a friendly town in Canada where no one seems to
understand or appreciate the brutal code of the American Wild West.
My rating: 7.5/10
Will I watch it again? Yes
Well this was refreshingly fun! The tone is set as soon as The Montana Kid opens his mouth. He sounds menacing and talks the tough talk but it's when no one around him gives a shit that he's disarmed of being a badass. Brilliant! The cast does a fine job all the way around, especially Gross.
So who is this guy? I'd never heard of him but he's charismatic, likable and fun. Looking at his credits I didn't see but one thing I recognized and that's the 90s show, DUE SOUTH. I remember it being a thing 25 years ago but I never saw it. Now I'll have to and just because of him. He's wonderful.
Writer/director William Phillips does a wonderful job with the characters and their dialogue. The scenes flow together nicely and there didn't seem to be any fat on the bone. It's a lean story the nicely sees The Kid transform from his gruff, killer persona to where he ends up. I would've liked the villain of the picture, Ben Cutter (Rennie), to be something more than a stock bad guy who does mean things to animals and people to show us in as little time as possible that he's a bad man and must be stopped.
Boo, hiss!
The romance between The Kid and Jane (Guillory) is nicely handled without much of the romance-y crap that sometimes bogs down these pictures. It's not subtle by any stretch but it's also not a drag on the story by focusing too much time on it. I really appreciated that. The picture feels like it slows down a bit during the social dance but it gives a lot of the characters moments to flesh themselves out enough to make a difference to the picture as a whole which is a good thing. There aren't too many Western comedies that work for me but this one does and in a big way. I'm so glad I took the time out to give it a shot.
Tagline: Don't turn your back on the Kooky Killer with the baby face!
Plot: A convicted bank robber is serving his sentence, and wishing nothing more
than to finish his time and get back to his family, gets involved with a
psychotic, homicidal inmate who turns on him and winds up terrorizing
his wife and murdering his friends.
My rating: 7/10
Will I watch it again? Maybe.
Well, well, well, this picture is full of all kinds of surprises, and most of them are in the last half hour. For 1958, this seems like a serious change of pace for a Western. There's some heavy shit bandied about. Felix (Evans) is a psychotic killer. His murder count is probably more than 8 from what we see, not to mention what he'd done before. It's nice that Hardy (O'Brian) has a character arc. What he becomes in the last few minutes is bad-fuckin'-ass. I've been aware of Hugh O'Brian's name for decades but I couldn't have told you anything about him until now. This guy is one tall, hunky, manly badass. Robert Evans, on the other hand, uh, I would say the less said the better.
I'm in the camp that he's woefully miscast. I can see what he was going for but he didn't have the acting chops to pull it off convincingly. He's OK, I guess, but he was often distracting with his inability to sell it fully. I can't think of anyone at the moment that would've killed it but you can see he needed more lessons or something. It was refreshing, though, seeing a character like his in a Western. He was brutal. This is a remake of KISS OF DEATH (1947), a film noir that I haven't seen in over twenty years. I need to fix that . The only thing I remember besides the chilly performance by Richard Widmark (that laugh of his, man!) was the scene where he pushes an old lady in a wheelchair down a staircase, giggling gleefully. I'd say give this flick a watch. It's different and that roller coaster of a ride that is the last twenty minutes will make you glad you did.
Writers: Sydney Boehm, Francis M. Cockrell, Herbert Ravenel Sass
Composer: Roy Webb
Starring: Van Heflin, Anne Bancroft, Richard Boone, Lee Marvin, Tommy Rettig, Peter Graves, Douglas Spencer, Paul Cavanagh, Will Wright, James Best, John Dierkes, Helen Ford, Claude Akins, Dolores Fuller, William Schallert
Plot: A group of confederate prisoners escape to Canada and plan to rob the
banks and set fire to the small town of Saint Albans in Vermont. To get
the lie of the land, their leader spends a few days in the town and
finds he is getting drawn into its life and especially into that of an
attractive widow and her son.
My rating: 6.5/10
Will I watch it again? No.
I know nothing of the true account this story depicts. I'm sure the fact that the raid happened and that it was Confederate soldiers who executed is correct but I would assume everything else is bullshit to create an interesting story. With that in mind, I'm sure Major Benton's (Heflin) burgeoning love affair with Katy (Bancroft) is a complete fabrication. And because of the Hollywood tropes of what becomes of these types of relationships at the ends of movies, I expected more of the same. I was shocked at the ending and I did not see that coming. The who's who of character actors makes this more fun for nerds like me. It's a good little picture that has a little action (only at the beginning and at the end) and only hints at a romance (thankfully, they don't get bogged down into that). The rest is the preparation for the big finale and the finale isn't all that exciting except for that certain thing that happens (or doesn't happen). You can watch the flick on YouTube above.
Tagline: Killers in pairs... death by the dozen... They left the west... More Dead than Alive.
Plot: When the multiple murderer Cain is released from prison after 18 years,
he wants to settle down as a rancher and never touch a gun again. But
his former life haunts him; not only that nobody wants to give him a
job, some villains also want to pay him back. So he has to accept the
offer of showman Ruffalo to perform as "Killer Cain" in his traveling
shooting show. However after 18 years without practice even Ruffalo's
young assistant Billy shoots better than Cain.
My rating: 7.5/10
Will I watch it again? Yes.
This is one of three feature films from director Robert Sparr, who worked almost exclusively in TV. Composer Philip Springer had four credits prior to this picture and two were in TV. All of this adds up to...this movie sometimes feels like it was made by folks with a TV sensibility, especially in the score. Springer's music is thin, light and comical - all of which work against the film. It's pretty bad. That's almost the only bad I can about this. It's still a very good movie thanks to things like Clint Walker's stoic performance which works in his favor. Sometimes his style doesn't quite fit the role but in this one he's great. Vincent Price is great as always but it's a different role for him and I loved it. It's nice to see him away from the horror pictures during this period. Everyone else in the cast does a fine job. Now, the story feels like one you've probably seen before but writer George Schenck (another almost exclusive to the television industry) adds some things to it that make this one stand out. What happens with Ruffalo (Price) is a shocker and everything from there to the end put a jaw-dropping grin on my face. Don't read any spoilers on this picture because the ending was balls-out fucking brutal and incredible. Craig Littler is ferocious. The only other thing I don't like about this picture is the corny song that's sung at the end. Silence would've served the film better or at least an burst of an ominous orchestral minor chord. Cool fact...Clint Walker is coming up on his 91st birthday. This film came next after his great turn in THE DIRTY DOZEN (1967).
Plot: A sheriff investigates why the guests at a secluded hostelry check in, but never check out.
My rating: 5.5/10
Will I watch it again? No.
Hmmmm. I bet this looked a lot better on paper. In execution, it loses something. It feels like it was made by a first time director/writer but it's Bourke's fourth or fifth picture. Bourke adds odd bits of out and out comedy every once in a while and it's completely against the tone of the film. The music doesn't help, either. Young composed a nice main theme in the vein of a Spaghetti Western but much of the rest of the score doesn't quite hit the right beats. Part of it is the orchestration. Maybe the music budget suffered. Alex Cord does a fine job and some of the photography looks good but it's the pacing and overall lack of suspense that brings the picture down. Add some very nice nudity to the plus column.
Tagline: Wanted dead or alive screamed the nation when the Daltons rode.
Plot: Fictionalized story of how the Dalton brothers were wronged by a crooked
development company and became outlaws when the corrupt local courts
offered them no justice.
My rating: 7/10
Will I watch it again? Probably not.
I thought this was going to be some below average B-picture that I'd quickly forget but nope, it's actually quite good. I've seen a few of Randolf Scott's Westerns but none where he's action-less. He punches a guy early in the film and for a good reason but that's about it. He never touches a gun and in the one fight he gets in (in the last few minutes of the picture), his ass is handed to him and he's knocked cold until the end. That was a big surprise (Scorethefilm removes his hat and lowers his head out of respect for Mr. Scott). But hokey smokes! Look at that cast! The first third of the film has very little action and it's all background so you know why the Daltons did what they did along with those left behind like Tod (Scott) and Julie (Francis) who fall in love despite her being engaged to one of the Daltons. That first third or so is very deceiving because suddenly, thanks to the Dalton boys being on the lam, shit starts happening, folks get robbed and good guys start gettin' killed.
There's a wild sequence where the boys leap off a rocky ledge and onto a fast-moving train. One by one they jump and it's really happening in front of you. I was actually worried something bad might happen but they pulled it off without edits. It's done in such a way that all five are stuntmen but you can't tell because their faces are nicely obscured just enough but each of the five men execute their jumps in succession and in one take. Minutes later they get off the still fast-moving train on horses! As soon as the boys got the idea to leap from the train on horseback I was worried again but this time it was for the horses. Four of them land on ground and the fifth into a river, well below the train. It's horrifying to think if any of the horses were injured (or if the one leaping into the river far below even died). Regardless, these stunt-fueled scenes made the picture much more exciting. The acting is surprisingly very good. Andy Devine can get a little annoying sometimes but he's got his moments of funny. I find he's better being used sparingly but I do like him a lot. I don't want to upset the Devine estate by implying otherwise. They'll probably send the Comedic Relief Sidekick Mafia after my ass. I'm sure there's very little truth to any of this picture involving the real Daltons but it's a fun film nevertheless. Director George Marshall had a long and wonderful career in Hollywood and he made a lot of good picture. Very few of his pictures would be considered classics but he was certainly a solid director who stayed incredibly busy until his death.
Starring: Lee Van Cleef, Stefanie Powers, Michael Callan, Mariette Hartley, Luke Askew, Pedro Armendariz Jr., Ralph Waite, Melissa Murphy, William Lucking, James Sikking, Ed Lauter, Allyn Ann McLerie, Gary Busey, Robert Jaffe
Tagline: A Brand New Seven -- Doing Their Number! They put their lives on the line and let it ride!
Plot: Forced by personal circumstances, Marshal Chris Adams recruits a writer
and five prisoners to help him eliminate a gang of Mexican bandits.
My rating: 7.5/10
Will I watch it again? Yes.
I have a lot to say about this one. This picture borders on greatness. Really. But it's a few little things that add up to enough to weigh it down with cheapness. First there's the town where Lee Van Cleef (as Chris) is the marshal. I shouldn't say it's the town that's the problem but however it was filmed. It looks a little cheap like it was shot for television.
That screenshot doesn't show it well enough but the town doesn't feel lived in and authentic as how it might in a bigger budgeted picture. Maybe it was the camera or the film but it just has that cheapness to the sets that I don't dig. Then you've got the music. Elmer Bernstein did all four of the Magnificent Seven films and each one uses the same main themes from the first one. They're great themes but they tend to get stale after a while mostly because they've been used in every film and they're used often. That problem carries over into this picture but there's the added problem of some of the cues being used inappropriately. I'm sure it was the fault of the director or studio who wanted to shoehorn those themes in as much as possible despite where the scene needed music or not or needed that theme or a new one. For example, the rousing main theme (you know the one) is heard when Chris and Noah (Callan) are headed South into Mexico to find the three bank robbers who kidnapped Chris' wife on the way out of town. MAGNIFICENT SPOILERS AHEAD!!! Chris and Noah find his wife dead and evidence that she was raped. Chris is naturally pissed and he's got some harsh revenge to mete out. They soon find two of the three men they're looking for and Chris, after a brief interrogation, kills them both in cold blood. Now keep in mind that he's a lawman held in such high esteem that he's on friendly terms with the Governor of his state. Minutes later he and Noah are riding to find the final bank robber. Now it's been more than established that Chris is a tough and hard man. He's a no bullshit kind of guy and his career body count is staggering. You don't fuck with this guy, see? So now he's hellbent on revenge at any cost and behind all of that is the rousing upbeat Magnificent Seven theme. Really? WTF? Exactly. This is just one of a few examples where the music is strangely inappropriately used. Bernstein does provide some wonderful music that was written for this film once Chris & Co. get to the small Mexican village where they take a stand.
The script in the first hour is sometimes clumsy with the dialogue. Every once in a while someone will say something forced or just plain dumb. The priest's entrance is a prime example. It literally feels like the actor was simply to stand there and not say much but the actor has other ideas and forcibly interjects himself into the conversation. It's awkward to say the least. Outside of these gripes (and to me they're big enough to hurt the picture), the movie is fucking fantastic. At this point in the picture (about a third in) shit gets real.
We're only told and shown just enough of the main baddie, the Mexican bandito know as De Toro (Ron Stein) to serve the film. He's got a little dialogue and I'm completely OK with that because there's a lot more going on with Chris' revenge plans, the criminals he recruited to help him and the town of nearly all women (because all of their men were killed by De Toro). De Toro was fleshed out to the right amount needed. The supporting characters are nicely done, especially Chris' criminal compatriots. Of the five of them you don't always know who is good (for Chris) and who isn't and the characters say or do things sometimes that change your opinions on them. Then there's one of the greatest cinema badasses of all time in the form of Lee Van Cleef. He's so hardcore badass in this movie I felt a vagina growing inside of me and my masculinity disappearing. And because he's who he is that it's really tough hearing people call him Chris. He's just not a Chris. It's too soft for this cat.
The final half of the picture is about as good as you can get. It's violent, brutal and fun. The Seven have a few tricks up their sleeve when De Toro comes a-ridin' into town and they do a fine job of it but not so well that it's going to be easy. They just even the odds out a little more like instead of 10 to 1 it's 6 to 1. There's no point in trying to figure out who makes it to the end credits or who snuffs it. The casualty list is long.
This is the last of the four Magnificent Seven pictures and I'm very impressed with this series (except for the second one, RETURN). As they stack up in my book it's the first one, THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN (1960) (and some of that has to do with being the first and that amazing cast), the third, GUNS OF THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN (1969), the fourth (this one) and RETURN OF THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN (1966). I won't be seeing RETURN again. The rest will get many replays before I snuff it.
For what it's worth, this is as close to a smile as you get from Lee Van Cleef...
Starring: Jeff Daniels, Jack O'Connell, Michelle Dockery, Scoot McNairy, Merritt Wever, Thomas Brodie-Sangster, Tantoo Cardinal, Adam David Thompson, Samantha Soule, Kayli Carter, Audrey Moore, Keith Jardine, Rio Alexander, Samuel Marty
Plot: Frank Griffin, an outlaw terrorizing the 1880s American West, hunts down
Roy Goode, his partner turned enemy. Roy hides out at a ranch as
Frank's chase leads him to La Belle, New Mexico - a town mysteriously
made up almost entirely of women.
My rating: 8/10
Will I watch it again? Yes.
This Netflix miniseries of sorts (7 episodes for a total length of about 7 hours) is outstanding. The characters are well crafted and likable and sometimes even fun. My two favorites are Mary Agnes (Wever) and her brother Bill (McNairy). They're fabulous. I want more with these two. The story unfolds with a lot of flashbacks and you don't really know all of the backstory until almost the end and that works just fine. It's got a great sense of time and place, the locations are beautiful, the town feels lived in and there are a lot of characters that are easy to identify and follow. It's written and directed by the same guy that brought us LOGAN (2017), DEAD AGAIN (1991) and OUT OF SIGHT (1998). While I liked how he turned a lot of Western cliches upside down and played around with them, I bothered the piss out of me with little dumb shit like when during the big shootout in the town during the final episode, one of the women is shooting six irons in each hand and then spins them like a trick shooter. It's dumb horseshit like that that smacks of stupid Hollywood movies. Anyway, that's just a tiny peeve I have but the overall show is fantastic. I'm not sure if this was only ever meant to be a 7 episode run or if maybe it's a 'wait and see how it does' kind of a thing that might continue if it's popular enough. Well I definitely want to see more, A LOT MORE!
Writers: David Markson, Tom Waldman, Frank Waldman, Joseph Heller
Composer: Jeff Alexander
Starring: Frank Sinatra, George Kennedy, Anne Jackson, Lois Nettleton, Jack Elam, Michele Carey, John Dehner, Henry Jones, Harry Carey Jr., Paul Fix, Marya Thomas, Don 'Red' Barry
Tagline: Sinatra plays cowboys and indians for adults!
Plot: Dingus Magee and his old rival Hoke Birdsill take turns at being either
lawman or outlaw and being rivals or partners in crime, depending of the
circumstances.
My rating: 6/10
Will I watch it again? No.
The only thing that I got a good chuckle out of were the few times when someone would say something mean-spirited (like I'm gonna shoot 'em in the back) and follow it up with "It's the code of the West.". Sometimes it was funny but either way it reminded me of that 50s MGM Droopy cartoon short where someone would do the same thing and say "It's the lawwww of the West.". I was surprised to see how silly this got and by silly I mean ridiculous and toilet-y. There's even a fart joke. There's also lots of sex jokes that are probably only funny if you're ten. I laugh at stuff like that sometimes but when it's funny. It just wasn't that funny in this flick. Look, I loves me some Sinatra but when he tries to be funny he speaks with a Southern drawl mixed with a stereotype black accent. I've seen countless footage of him speaking like that (and heard live recordings) so it gets old but I can't hold that against this film because it's not supposed to come with the baggage of all of that, assuming that people hadn't heard it that much. The movie is one scenario after another where the two (Dingus (Sinatra) and Hoke (Kennedy)) get the one-up on each other trying to steal from each other. It's not all that bad of a movie but the crowd it was made for I think is a lot smaller than they expected.
Writers: Samuel G. Engel, Winston Miller, Sam Hellman, Stuart N. Lake
Composer: Cyril J. Mockridge
Starring: Henry Fonda, Linda Darnell, Victor Mature, Cathy Downs, Walter Brennan, Tim Holt, Ward Bond, Alan Mowbray, John Ireland, Roy Roberts, Jane Darwell, Grant Withers
Tagline: Into the West came Clementine...Out of the West it comes!
Plot: The Earps battle the Clantons at the OK Corral in Tombstone, Arizona.
My rating: 7.5/10
Will I watch it again? Yes.
Well that was a lifetime of buildup for not such a great film. Geez. All my life (nearly 50 years) I've heard nothing but amazing things about this picture and, even though I'm shocked that it took this long to see it, it doesn't live up to its reputation. It's a good movie but not what I've heard since I was a kid that it was one of the greatest Westerns ever. The scenery is magnificent (I've been to Tombstone a couple of times and it looks nothing like the movie). It's drop dead gorgeous. Fonda is great. What I liked most about him is the little things he'd do when he was bored. That stuff just tickled me to death and it made him more human. The cast does a fine job but the problem I have is that this well-known and often told story is far from the truth which is more interesting than this fiction. Aside from the names, there's not much resembling what happened. Nevertheless, it's an enjoyable film and worth a look. That last kill minutes from the end is brutal. Someday I'll revisit it and maybe I'll see then more than what I see now. At that time I won't have a lifetime of buildup.
Starring: Charles Bronson, Robert Hutton, John Carradine, Carole Mathews, Fintan Meyler, Paul Maxey, Thomas Browne Henry, William Stevens, Martin Smith, Joe McGuinn
Tagilne: A weapon in his hand made him Big....Powerful!
Plot: A deputy marshal kills a murderer in a town that loved him, and when no
one is willing to identify him, he can't collect any reward.
My rating: 6.5/10
Will I watch it again? Maybe.
BRONSON'S AGE: 37
LEVEL OF BADASSICITY (10 being the highest): 7
Bronson is a badass!
Good flick. Bronson's got a chance to stretch his legs as an actor. He's a badass, an honest man and a lover. He's got the law on his side but the townspeople won't let up on him. There's a little bit of action here and there with Luke (Bronson) defending himself against everything from a young upstart to an angry mob to a man with a stick. That ending though... I would've given the film a 7 but the confrontation at the end was so weak and anticlimactic that it felt like the writer said screw it. It could've been handled better and with a little more excitement. I get where Luke wanted to be and he was done with violence but still. The confrontation was over within a few seconds and then cut to the loving embrace of the gal he loves. The End 50s style.
So how badass was Bronson? You definitely wouldn't want to fuck with him in this film. He and I are the same height at 5'8.5" and all through the picture people comment on how short he is. He does too, and it's the reason why he got so good with a gun and at killing mother fuckers that needed dead. Now I can't prove any of this but I'm willing to bet that all of the scenes where people made some crack about his being short were all done on the last day because he probably put each one of them in the hospital as soon as the director yelled "cut". Don't believe me? Have you ever seen a film he made after this where someone mentioned his height? Exactly.